refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam

[Paul the Human]

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The misconception you hold is that we (atheists) think that all Muslims are guilty of terrorism and/or the mistreatment of women. We aren't that stupid. We know that not all Muslims agree with the cultures that perpetuate these things. However, many of these things are happening in the name of Islam. That is a fact.

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you are saying that but read the posts before you will realize that a lot think that this is not the case

I have read all of the posts. I don’t see anyone claiming that all Muslims support the mistreatment of women. What I see are people asking why so many Muslims do support the mistreatment of women. That is something you have failed to answer. You point to the Qur’an and say that it does not support such things, but that does not explain why so many cultures built upon the religion commit them in the name of the religion. They are getting the idea from somewhere. I concede that a lot of it is because these cultures are a couple of centuries behind the rest of the world. The idea of individual freedom is new to many of them, and for some… quite threatening.

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You say that we cannot blame the religion, but must blame only the cultures. But... those cultures are built upon the religion. Perhaps you do not agree with the interpretation being used to justify such horrible things, but you can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend that your religion is not the root cause.

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those cultures are not based on the religion. if they are they will be following what is said in the Quran they are applying parts of the religion and ignore the parts that contradict their culture. in egypt that is happening in few places in upper egypt and when you talk with someone about that he is doing something forbidden or bad his answer is that he is doing the norms of his familly and that his father and grandfather used to do the same and that he is not going to change what they are used to do(i clarified before about the interpretation there is a difference between interpretation and cutting from text to get different meaning to justify certain acts)

No true Scotsman. Yes, we get that. These Muslims are not real Muslims. It does not change the fact that Muslim countries, in which one sect or another is actually the government, these things are done in the name of Islam. If you think that is not true… it is you with the misconceptions.

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Just like Christians. Do most Christians think it is right to murder abortion doctors? No, of course not... but those murders are happening and the perpetrators are Christians that justify their actions with their beliefs. Just because some people disagree, doesn't mean the problems caused by religion are not real.

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if there is a text in the bible that order these actions plz write it to me and i will try to show you how you can diffirintiate between what a religion order and what extremists do or tell me how those people are justifying their acts i really want to know about that

That’s the thing. Verses can be interpreted in a number of ways. Almost anything can be justified if one is creative enough with the vague statements in the holy books. The point is that, whether it clearly says so in the books or not, people twist things until they say what they want them to say. Those Christians that kill abortion doctors believe they are doing god’s work. The Muslim cultures that oppress women believe that they are pleasing Allah.

In short… the religions themselves are responsible.