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Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
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RE: Why was Adam exempt...
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: “Romans 5:12. Sin entered the world through one man [Adam]. Not exempt. His punishment:”

Does this quote hold more or less power than yours and why?
Not sure what you're asking here?
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Ecclesiasticus Chapter 25; 24 Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die.
Not scripture. If sin did not enter the world through the one man [Adam] then how can forgiveness enter the world through one man [Jesus]? Ecclesiasticus denies the doctrine of salvation.
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Also, I did not say that Adam was not punished, he was, but not nearly as badly as Eve who he gained dominion over while she basically became his slave.
God gave Adam dominion over the material world. Where in Genesis did God give Adam dominion over Eve?
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: I note your “Not rule, federal headship.” be low and your semantics does not change the facts that Eve was to forever be subordinate to Adam.
Do you know what federal headship is?
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: She therefore, along with the other punishments, bore more punishment than Adam while he bore more of the transgression.
What standard are you using to compare the punishments between the two?
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(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

Your reply.
“By what authority are you making that claim?”

Why would I need anyone’s authority to opine on scriptures?
Do you go running for authority before you opined on this O.P.?

Who was it?
Let me rephrase, what reason do you have for making the claim that Eve's punishment was greater than Adam's?
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(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: “Who was 'guiltiest' is not the determining factor.”

Interesting. What other factor would you use to determine a sentence if not the guiltiest get the most severe sentence?

Show where and why you would punish more harshly the less guilty pleas.
I have not argued that Eve's sin and punishment were any greater or less than Adam's. This is a position that you have taken. 'Who is the guiltiest' is not the determining factor in federal headship.
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(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: “Are you claiming that it was a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom over God's word?”

Absolutely.
There is a way that seems right to a man in his own mind but the end is death.
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: God’s WORD and almost all God can know is in the tree of knowledge. They chose his WORD and that is why God said they became as Gods.
It is written the tree contained the knowledge of good and evil, not 'almost all God can know'.
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Tell us what is wrong with becoming like God when scriptures tell us to do just that.

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Which is more perfect, obedience to the will of the Father, or choosing our own way?
(September 13, 2014 at 8:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Do you think A & E should have remained with their eyes closed, not even knowing they are naked and thus not able to reproduce?

Regards
DL
Is your claim that without the knowledge of what it means to be naked, they wouldn't be able to reproduce?



(September 13, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(September 12, 2014 at 3:44 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Are you claiming that it was a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom over God's word?

I recommend re-reading what you wrote to see if you can spot the astonishingly glaring and revealing error.
Not all idols are carved from wood and stone.

20 Brethren, do not be children in your thinking; yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?



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Messages In This Thread
Adam exempt? - by orangebox21 - September 12, 2014 at 3:44 pm
the transgression was disobedience - by orangebox21 - September 17, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Why was Adam exempt... - by orangebox21 - September 14, 2014 at 12:37 am

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