What does in God’s image mean? He created Adam & Eve without a moral sense.

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What does in God’s image mean? He created Adam & Eve without a moral sense.

I take, in God’s image, to refer to God’s and our mental image and not the physical. God does not look like us in any way. He and his form is quite alien to us.

Genesis shows that Adam & Eve were created without the moral sense that would make them like Gods. That being the case, they had to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to be in God’s mental image. That is without a doubt a requirement to the development of a moral sense and is confirmed by God after Adam and Eve disobeyed his command to stay dumb and without a moral sense.

If they were created in God’s image then they would have already had the moral sense that comes from the knowledge of good and evil and would therefore not have been tempted by Satan to eat of the tree of knowledge because they would have had that knowledge already. This would also mean that God was punishing them unjustly.

One must conclude from these biblical facts, that God did not make mankind in his image.

The only other logical alternative is that God does not have a moral sense and that he too, like Adam and Eve, was basically as dumb as a cow.

Could that be why God is shown as doing other immoral things in scriptures?

The two main ones that come to mind is God having his own son murdered for the forgiveness of sin when there was no real need to and the genocide of Noah’s day.

Does being in God's image mean not having a moral sense?

Regards
DL

[Minimalist]

[Drich]

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[quote]What does in God’s image mean? [/quote]
With a gooey spirit center. (with a soul)

[quote]He created Adam & Eve without a moral sense.[/quote]
As the bible outlines morality yes. They only knew the expressed will of God. They did not know sin and could not water down God righteousness with it, thus creating "morality."
Morality= man's attempt at God's righteous standard with the sin man is willing to live with Incorporated into it.

[quote]I take, in God’s image, to refer to God’s and our mental image and not the physical. God does not look like us in any way. He and his form is quite alien to us.[/quote]Christ is God and He was one of us

[quote]Genesis shows that Adam & Eve were created without the moral sense that would make them like Gods. That being the case, they had to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to be in God’s mental image.[/quote]You seem to be Working with a bad understanding of the "image of God."

[quote]That is without a doubt a requirement to the development of a moral sense and is confirmed by God after Adam and Eve disobeyed his command to stay dumb and without a moral sense.[/quote]Moral meaning what?


[quote]If they were created in God’s image then they would have already had the moral sense that comes from the knowledge of good and evil and would therefore not have been tempted by Satan to eat of the tree of knowledge because they would have had that knowledge already. This would also mean that God was punishing them unjustly.[/quote]
How so?

[quote]One must conclude from these biblical facts, that God did not make mankind in his image.[/quote]-Or- God did not make man kind in your understanding of "His Image."

[quote]Could that be why God is shown as doing other immoral things in scriptures?[/quote]absolutely if you look at the scripturally back definition of "morality." (Man made righteousness or Self righteousness.)

[quote]The two main ones that come to mind is God having his own son murdered for the forgiveness of sin when there was no real need to and the genocide of Noah’s day.[/quote] Perhaps it is your understanding of those two events that causes you to think this way. Can you explain how these two events do not make sense to you?

[quote]Does being in God's image mean not having a moral sense?[/quote]Again I need you to define morality. where does it come from what standard is it built on, does it change, who decides how and when to change it?

Regards
Drich

[Welsh cake]

Why haven't I put Drich on my ignore list?

Answers on a postcard please.

[R-e-n-n-a-t]

Hey, look! All Drich did was fail to understand a single point. Is anyone surprised?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Does being in God's image mean not having a moral sense?

God has moral sense,he's just a bad tempered, jealous,petty,petulant,cruel ,vindictive,genocidal prick.He's also a little impulsive,and tends not to think things through before acting.. I mean he actually apologised after the flood,promising he wouldn't do it again.

Of course, I've probably taken it all out of context,and have gone and gotten all confused again. Thank goodness for the plethora of Christian intellectual giants we have here to gently guide us with deep tolerance,love and compassion

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Why haven't I put Drich on my ignore list?

Answers on a postcard please.

Good question. I have.

[Napoléon]

Hey, look! All Drich did was fail to understand a single point. Is anyone surprised?

No.

[mediamogul]

What does in God’s image mean? He created Adam & Eve without a moral sense.

I take, in God’s image, to refer to God’s and our mental image and not the physical. God does not look like us in any way. He and his form is quite alien to us.

Genesis shows that Adam & Eve were created without the moral sense that would make them like Gods. That being the case, they had to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to be in God’s mental image. That is without a doubt a requirement to the development of a moral sense and is confirmed by God after Adam and Eve disobeyed his command to stay dumb and without a moral sense.

If they were created in God’s image then they would have already had the moral sense that comes from the knowledge of good and evil and would therefore not have been tempted by Satan to eat of the tree of knowledge because they would have had that knowledge already. This would also mean that God was punishing them unjustly.

One must conclude from these biblical facts, that God did not make mankind in his image.

The only other logical alternative is that God does not have a moral sense and that he too, like Adam and Eve, was basically as dumb as a cow.

Could that be why God is shown as doing other immoral things in scriptures?

The two main ones that come to mind is God having his own son murdered for the forgiveness of sin when there was no real need to and the genocide of Noah’s day.

Does being in God's image mean not having a moral sense?

Regards
DL

After reading the Genesis account of creation I believe that the folks who wrote the bible were so simplistic in their thinking that they meant literally in the physical image of Yahweh. Yahweh literally comes down and walks through the garden of eden after Adam and Eve eat from the tree of knowledge. Yahweh asks "Adam where are you? Why are you hiding from me? Who told you you were naked?" This is how Yahweh "finds out" that they had disobeyed him.

Another classic is where Jacob wrestles with Yahweh and gets the upper hand. Yahweh tries to use magic to win but it is no use. Jacob then holds Yahweh down to force him to give Jacob a blessing.

Genesis
32:22 And he rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok.
32:23 And he took them, and sent them over the brook, and sent over that he had.
32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
32:25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
32:26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
32:27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.
32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
32:29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.


This humanized god shows up all over the OT. It's not until the NT that we get the removed, mysterious, spirit god of Jesus.

This conception of god is similar to what was happening at the same time in both Egypt and Greece where their gods bore human figures with some variations.

[Begynol]

When you think of it.

The human writers, who invented and wrote the story of Genesis were pretty arrogant to postulate that god was created in their own image. Assumes they are god like, and certainly espouses homocentricity .

[Greatest I am]