Should man rule over women for women’s own good?

[orangebox21]

If I would have added 'or you will die' to the command to do jumping jacks, does that necessitate that you did them?

To add 'free and unhampered' as qualifiers of choice is moving the goal posts.

The option is no longer do jumping jacks or do not do jumping jacks. The option changed from the former into... "Do the jumping jacks or die." It is your ilk who've moved the goalposts.

This is in defense to the assertion that a command does not necessitate the commanded response. If the command did necessitate the commanded response it wouldn't matter if there was a 'threat' attached to the command or not. In the same way, if the command does not necessitate the commanded response then a 'threat' attached to the command wouldn't necessitate the commanded response, it would only make it emotionally more difficult.

If I were to say to you, don't stick a fork in that wall outlet [a command] or you will die [a threat]. Does that necessitate you wouldn't stick a fork in the wall outlet? No (unless you're ShaMan).

Is this an attempt at an insult, or are you alluding to the post where I claimed to have done the jumping jacks. If the former, then have your fun. If the latter, then please know that I realize that one is potentially lethal more so than the other. Of course the third option is that you're trolling

I was referencing your joke from post #241

When paul says 1 Timothy 2:12 NIV

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. He is not being sexist or anything like it. To understand you have to look at ths context. At the time Paul said this women were mostly illiterate and unlearned, Paul is saying that women can only be allowed to teach if the are taught first. Also why would Paul teach women tp pray and prophesy in church(1 Corithians 11:5) if he meant them to be silent. Paul also critises men at the time for keeping women from an education. Furthermore in Ephesus were Timothy taught, there was a pagan cult worshipping the pagan God Artemis. This worship was lead by priestesses, this is also what Paul refers to when he says women should be silent.

While I agree there are times that commands are contingent upon cultural differences, Paul specifically connects the reason for why a woman is not to teach a man to the created order, not to a cultural one. The context here is 'because Adam was first created and then Eve,' and not 'because they were uneducated.'