(June 14, 2010 at 3:50 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: i hope you can tell me the rights that you think should have been given to the women in islam and it is not or the things that you see is not good for the women in islamAll the rights that islam takes away from women should be given back. That is all that is necessary as far as women's rights go, since there is no need for different treatment of either gender. But once gender inequality is out of the way, there is also the issue of many other rights that you take away from both men and women. Women have to suffer with these gender-shared atrocities on top of the extra shit you guys throw at women only. Shared losses of rights like being killed for consentual sex, etc.
Quote:thats what you think and thats your opinion all i say is that you dont want your believe to be based on confusions or based on what you hear or based on something you see is not right because your way of life is different you must identify every little aspect and regarding the heaven and hell i dont see them as bribe or threat they are results of your actions and also its just fair that the good will have a reward and the bad will get punishedYou believe all that stuff about heaven and hell just because a book written by humans says that it is true. And how do the writers know it's true? Some guy named Mohammed had a schizophrenic god hallucination centuries ago, back when they thought things like that were magic, and everyone believed him.
It IS a threat/bribery system. You end up doing certain things to avoid hell. Not because you really agree or disagree with whether the action is good or bad, but because you fear hell. With heaven, you do certain things because you hope it will bring you to heaven someday. Or do you really get an uncontrollable urge to tell allah how wonderful he is 5 times a day?
Believers always end up convincing themselves to agree with the morals and rules that their religion tells them to. Some morals and rules might be ones they would have agreed with even if they had not been that religion, but they agree with the rest because of the bribery/threat that they believe their gods hold over them. They believe that their gods are reading their minds too, so they try really hard to make their thoughts acceptable to whatever their religion says.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...