RE: On naturalism and consciousness
September 15, 2014 at 11:28 am
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 11:40 am by Chas.)
(September 14, 2014 at 1:59 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 8:24 am)Chas Wrote: I said that mind is an emergent property of the brain.Wow! how profound. Do you even know the difference between 'weaak' and 'strong' emergence? Did you know the term 'emergence' is over a hundred years old and still, still has no precise definition? You gave it a word and now you think you understand consciousness. You've only proved that you can cut-and-paste things of which you have no understanding. Your posts contribute nothing new.
Did I claim to understand consciousness? No, so go fuck yourself.
I have quite a good understanding of emergence, thank you.
Suggested reading: The Mind's I: Fantasies And Reflections On Self & Soul, Douglas Hostadter and Daniel Dennet
(September 14, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Dissily Mordentroge Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 12:27 pm)Chas Wrote: If mind is an emergent property of the brain, then there is no reason, inI see no problem with the mind being inextricably tied to the biological brain. Possibly you're sub-consciously anticipating a technology ablt to transplant your mind into a non-biological entity after your demise thus attaining a form of immortality?
principle, that mind could not be created from a non-living device.
This is the stance of "Strong AI".
To think otherwise requires either dualism or the idea that mind is inextricably tied to the biological brain.
The stance of so called Strong AI invariably avoids the central problem of consciousness as I attempted to explain in my post.
I don't have a problem with mind being inextricable from a biological brain except for the lack of a mechanism and the lack of evidence.
Possibly you're subconsciously masking your arrogance by using pseudo-psychology on people?
Strong AI doesn't avoid the problem of consciousness so much as assuming it emerges from complexity and interconnectedness.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.