RE: My Thoughts On Militant Atheism
September 15, 2014 at 3:57 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 4:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 15, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Celestine Wrote: 2:193 Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not commit aggression: God loves not the aggressors. slay them wherever you fall upon them, and expel them from where they had expelled you; apostasy by force is indeed more serious than slaying. Do not fight them near the Holy Mosque unless they fight you therein. If they fight you therein, slay them: such is the reward for unbelievers. But if they desist, then God is All-Forgiving, Compassionate to each. Fight them until there is no longer forced apostasy, and the religion is God's. If they desist, no aggression is permitted, except against the wicked. A Holy Month will substitute for a Holy Month, and sacrilege calls for retaliation. Whoever commits aggression against you, retaliate against him in the same measure as he committed against you. Fear God and knows that God stands by the pious.Allah appreciates pretext and would prefer it if you didn't destroy the fancy baubles piled up in his house.
Quote:Quran (2:244) - "Fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."Full of "odd quotes". I call them disheveled and poorly thought-out....but "odd" works as well, I suppose.
An odd quote that comes after talking about the divorce of women and a story about how the Israelites did not fight when they were appointed a king, even though they had said "What prevents us from fighting when we've been driven out of our homes, along with our children?"
Quote:Quran (2:216) Fighting has been prescribed for you, although it is a manner hateful to you. And yet, for all you know, you may hate something - and it is good for you. For all you know, you may love something - and it is harmful to you. God knows, and you do not know.Right, the killing and the maiming is good for you - and even though it disgusts you, you'll be the better for it. I have a different theory, the killing and the maiming disgusts people because it's disgusting and patently -not- good for us, no matter who tells us to do it.
Quote:It does not say that fighting it good for you, it says it might be good for you even if you hate it. Certainly this can not be construed as calling to arms against unbelievers for unjust reasons. More like a reminder to the Mujahideen for the cause they are fighting for which would in their eyes be good even though they hate fighting.It can and -ha-s been construed as such - you're not really trying to put yourself in the shoes of the faithful......are you? That has nothing to do with what is good "in their eyes" (subjective) but what Allah decrees to be good (which is believed to be objective). People believe in the causes for which they lay down life and limb - but this is an entirely different beast.......
Quote:Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."I know right, evil motherfuckers. How dare they not believe, I'm going to hurt them.
Quote:Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').-and some feel that they are doing gods bidding along precisely these lines......even the big man deserves time off here and there. Why not off a few kaffir and save him the trouble?
none of these are call to arms, but speaking of how god will punish them for their sins. I could type them out but I really do not have to as it is clear in these quotes that these are not calls for war.
Quote:Quran (4:74/4:76) But if bounty comes to you from Allah , he will surely say, as if there had never been between you and him any affection. "Oh, I wish I had been with them so I could have attained a great attainment." So let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. And he who fights in the cause of Allah and is killed or achieves victory - We will bestow upon him a great reward. And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper?"Yeah......so, as per the above, if I off some unbelievers and do gods bidding he might give me candy - or awesome sex robots in an eternal hereafter. Where do I sign up?
In this one the cause to fight is not only for allah but for the oppressed as well.
Quote:Tada. It was all in the Quran, and all you had to do was read it to clear up this misunderstanding.Indeed, it -is- all in the quran.....but you don't need to clear up this misunderstanding for us....you need to go clear it up for some hardcore mujahideen, eh? They might clear something up for you as well - like that nasty point of attachment between your head and your body. You'll see things much more clearly when that's handled, of course - and as a bonus...they might get sex robots for "helping" you to see the truth. I really can't stress this enough.....what -couldn't- you get a teenage boy to do by promising him sex robots if he;s never so much as seen a female face (other than his family...if that)?
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