refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam

[mo3taz3nbar]

Prove to me otherwise by first proving that the god in your book exists. I can't trust any humans who simply state such a wild ridiculous claim, even ones named Mohammed who are thought of as prophets. You have given me no reason to believe any of that koran stuff is true. If you can't prove it is true, then how can you expect anyone to believe what it says about women, or the rules people should live by, or anything else?

i made a thread about the reasons that made me believe before but i think it was so big thats why some of you didnt read it so i will write about each reason independetly.my next threads will be the stages i passed through before i become a believer i think this will make things more clear

Every living thing did NOT come from water

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/propertyyou.html

How is it scientific to make statements about heaven joining and then leaving earth? If you are trying to say that heaven now means all of the universe *except earth*, well that's just silly. Earth IS still part of the universe, it's never been separated that we humans know of. Who is the 'we' mentioned about in that book verse? I hope you're not actually presenting that verse as some sort of scientific statement, because it makes no sense when examined.

the heavens means the skies and the verse says that the earth and the skies was one unit then they was seperated i dont see the problem here its that easy and it doesnt mean that we are not still in the universe but of course now we are not joined as one entity

Why do you believe it's true? You've never seen any of the ones your religion is claiming, like your god or angels or jinni. You have no proof that some human named Mohammed was having direct communication with islam's god.

not everything you must see by your eyes to believe it sometimes you can use logic and reasoning denying everything you didnt see is not logic and of course you dont do it in everything you just do that in religion

It's very likely he was just simply either a schizophrenic or a con-man who wanted people to follow him. We KNOW that those two types of people DO exist. So what is more likely? A magical god who used telepathy to tell one human some rules (why didn't he just tell everyone himself? - then there would be no unbelievers!)? Or common human ways of thinking/behaving such as schizos and con-men, and Mohammed was one of these?

you are stuck in the wrong stage asking questions like that really make sense but the next step is to start searching for answers dont just claim things and believe it without evidence and your evidance must not be opinion of others you have to find it by yourself and if you hear opinion of someone you must analyze it by yourself.about why dont god tell us everything by himself so there will be no believers.there will be always non believers whatever happens some will find their way to not believe and also you must understand why we are here in order to start asking why dont god show us himself

I'm not quite sure what your purpose here is Mo.

Do you think that if you are able to convince us that despite all of the violence, murder and human degradation committed in the name of allah and mu-mu(feb)(translated, fuck 'em both)
that islam is really a nice shiny happy religion we will all convert?

Aaah no, not going to happen.

Still no evidence and until that happens...........

my aim at the begining was to just understand about atheism but later i become more interested to remove any wrong reasons that make me a believer and about refuting misconceptions every time i write about anything a lot of members start saying claims that i know according to Islam is wrong so i decided to start by removing this barriers so we can talk easier.about converting you guys i dont really care about that and am not looking to convert someone through the internet but i care that everyone base his beliefs whatever it is on the correct knowledge and reasons