RE: We are nothing for suffering (my story)
September 23, 2014 at 12:05 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2014 at 12:19 am by Whateverist.)
Of course we would all have gone deaf.
There you go. Much better.
Now I can tell you I completely disagree with you. I personally do not pander to pleasure or happiness. They come or they don't on their own schedule.
Many people experience depression in their life and while you're in it it can be pretty strikingly awful. You can feel dull, socially stupid and beyond the reach of all stimulation.
But did you ever hear of the Law of Inverse Consequences? I think, like me, you have narcissistic tendencies. To have your opinion of yourself lowered because of depression can be pretty devastating for folks like us. But really, our self-evaluations are worthless, both when we are full of our selves and when we feel worthless. The trick is to stop evaluating yourself. Screw it.
My advice to you is to accept that you are much less than you used to think you were and probably always will be. Meh. Get on with it and leave your evaluation to your biographers if any there be.
(September 22, 2014 at 2:50 pm)MattMVS7 Wrote: Now just in case no one wants to read my opening post because it is too long, I have provided here in this post a brief summary of my story. Also, there are people who live their entire lives with depression or anhedonia and, based on my story as well as the summary I will now present, these are the most inferior people of all. Even I am inferior for having anhedonia and depression myself and I would be the most inferior person if I could never fully recover from it.
Story Summary: Who you are as a person is nothing compared to your feelings of pleasure. Pleasure is superior to emotionless robots and people who don't have pleasure due to either depression or anhedonia (emotional numbness) are the equivalent to emotionless robots. You would still be nothing more than the equivalent to an inferior biological robot regardless of how much others value you, what great things you do in life, and how much you help others if you lived a life without pleasure. Even if who you are as a person does have human value and is not something "robotic," you would still be an utterly inferior human being because pleasure is the greatest thing about you in life and to lose it would make you inferior. So even if you were a psychopath like Hitler who slaughtered many innocent people, as long as you have pleasure, that would make you the better person. You would even be far better than a depressed and emotionally numb innocent person who instead helped many people around the world. So this is the reason why people with nice happy lives are the better people.
I believe in hedonism and hedonism states that pleasure is the only greatest thing in life. Everything else in life is nothing compared to pleasure. So this is the reason why pleasure is the only greatest thing about you as a person and to lose that would basically make you nothing as a person. My personal experience of pleasure also says to me that it is the greatest thing in life and that nothing else in life or about you as a person ever compares (even if you were a person who values the pleasure of others and lived solely to bring others pleasure). The fact is, you have lost your own pleasure if you had depression or anhedonia and you would still be nothing more than an inferior biological robot even if you instead lived solely to bring others pleasure. Yes, the pleasure of others matters just as greatly as your own. But you would still be nothing as a person without your own pleasure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonism
There you go. Much better.
Now I can tell you I completely disagree with you. I personally do not pander to pleasure or happiness. They come or they don't on their own schedule.
Many people experience depression in their life and while you're in it it can be pretty strikingly awful. You can feel dull, socially stupid and beyond the reach of all stimulation.
But did you ever hear of the Law of Inverse Consequences? I think, like me, you have narcissistic tendencies. To have your opinion of yourself lowered because of depression can be pretty devastating for folks like us. But really, our self-evaluations are worthless, both when we are full of our selves and when we feel worthless. The trick is to stop evaluating yourself. Screw it.
My advice to you is to accept that you are much less than you used to think you were and probably always will be. Meh. Get on with it and leave your evaluation to your biographers if any there be.
