RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
September 25, 2014 at 3:06 am
(September 25, 2014 at 12:59 am)snowtracks Wrote: while you neanderthals have been mucking in the intellectual mud, a world class atheist thinker says the ID crowd is correct about the mind and consciousness existing and naturalism/ materialism is royally whacked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_and_Cosmos
this is obvious stuff, so how did the board members get their minds tricked so easily?
Oh, yet more Nagel.
So, first of all, philosophers aren't scientists, so what they have to say has very little impact on scientific fields on its own. Second, the idea of a mind or consciousness existing isn't excluded from naturalistic or materialistic thought, you blithering fool; as I've said numerous times, treating the mind either as a magic woo-woo spiritual thing or nonexistent is a false dichotomy. The mind is easily explained as being an emergent process arising from the material components of the brain arranged in a specific sequence; a conclusion that all the evidence in neuroscience tends to support. Nagel- I'm familiar with his work- and you are working from an unjustified presupposition that material elements cannot be more than the sum of their parts, or cannot be arranged in such a way as to accomplish things that they could not do separately. If you actually think that's true, then I think the entire field of mechanics and engineering would have something to say there.
Lastly, don't think I didn't notice you trying to smuggle in the claims of intelligent design under the cover of claims about consciousness. You're not going to just sneak those in so dishonestly, and if you want to demonstrate ID you've got to... actually do that, rather than cherrypicking single atheists and then pretending that their unsubstantiated claims are somehow proof of ID, even when they haven't addressed ID.
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