RE: Evidence for atheism
September 25, 2014 at 5:19 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2014 at 5:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 25, 2014 at 5:05 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It's "game over" in terms of demonstrating the necessary truth of the argument - which is not at all the same as demonstrating that the conclusion is false.But it -is- the same as demonstrating what is or is not true within the rules of the system. The requirements must be met, or else the claim is -not true- which is interchangeable with "false". If the conclusion is true for some other reason, the claim will be no less false (and no more true), and this will only explain -why- the claim is false.
The argument cannot be separated from the conclusion in this system, because the system explictly states what is required from the argument in order for the conclusion to be "true" This must follow that, and this and that must be a certain thing, or else the "ergo" is in error. It is not true, it is false. It may be true based upon something else - that's another claim, another discussion, another set of variables ....which -do- follow the rules. It happens- and we understand why it happens.
A claim in a vacuum is neither true nor false, it's just a claim - a state. This, not that. To make the determination of "truth" we require metrics.
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