(September 27, 2014 at 4:55 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(September 27, 2014 at 4:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Would you agree that much of morality is concerned with harm? As in, the reason that murder, for example, is "immoral" has to do with harming another person.
No never. Killing isn't immoral. Murder is immoral, because morality produces law. Injustice = imbalance. That's where my thoughts on degree come in. All of your objections seem to be based upon an imbalance between sacrifice and debt. You cite unjust examples which results in you missing the point, and concluding what you do. Incorrectly.
(September 27, 2014 at 4:10 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: But to be simply human, with all of our frailties and such, why do I need someone to save me ...from that?
''Not deserving of something'' implies that I've done something wrong, and I need a savior to excuse me. That is the main problem I have with Christianity...this notion that being human is somehow...''sinful'' in and of itself.
You have the option of accepting 2nd best. Living with your flawed nature and making the best of it. Nobody said that you didn't deserve salvation. We're all offered it freely, so that would mean you must deserve it right? You're given the freedom to either accept it or reject it.
Christianity takes the populist view that humanity is flawed, yes. We're not perfect. Are you happy with your lot and live your life to the best of your ability? Then you're living with your flaws.
But, why am I being offered it (grace/salvation) at all? If God made mankind 'perfect,' why did he need to send a savior to redeem us? What am I being saved from, and what am I rejecting? I'm a former Christian, but my reason for departing it had to do with the fallacy of believing that I deserve basically a place called hell, if I choose to 'reject' God's 'free gift' of salvation. Why would God create such a puzzling format for mankind to follow?
When you break it down, it would seem that Christianity is built on one giant puzzle, and God holds the piece that you'll never find.
