RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
September 28, 2014 at 5:34 am
(September 28, 2014 at 4:15 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Your numbers may be in ascending order but they are not in sequential order. The Fibonacci sequence adds the last two numbers to get the next number, eg. 1,1,2,3,5,8,13, that's the sequence.
in your "sequence" of 1, 5, 8, 49, 65, 79, how do you get from 1 to 5? From 5 to 8?
So what? My numbers are in an order: "ascending" is an order, even if it's too general for your tastes. Please try to remember what we're talking about here: your claim is that all sequences require design, so in answer I offered a sequence that required no design at all. The obvious conclusion is that not all sequences require designers, which prompts us to move ahead and ask how one determines the design of a sequence.
You were the one who offered the definition here. I'm playing by your rules.
Quote:That would imply that anyone is capable of accomplishing the same thing. The man is a trained musician. Place a monkey at the piano and see if you get the same result.
What it implies is that the content of a sequence is less important than the person observing it. You were the one saying random things couldn't be sequences, what I showed is that in the hands of a person well versed in the language of what's on offer, even entirely random sets can contain ordered music.
To be clear, the same is true of the Fibonacci Sequence: the fact that the numbers recur isn't important, because without demonstrating a designer there's simply no reason to believe that the order factored into the processes by which it became present in the various things you're pointing to. The only significance at play here is that you were able to read the numbers involved and recognized them as conforming to a pattern that has been noted elsewhere in human history. The numbers don't matter; your experience in reading them does. To say otherwise, to claim design because of this, is to get the process entirely in reverse.
You are looking at a puddle, seeing that it is a depression holding water, and concluding that since cups are also depressions that can contain water, that therefore all puddles are designed like cups are.
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