(September 28, 2014 at 4:01 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(September 28, 2014 at 2:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Why not redeem yourself by regretting evil done and doing your best to be a good human being? Why does a sacrifice of which only Christianity talks about is needed? Since the sacrifice is done...can't she just believe God would forgive her in his own way IF he exists. Isn't that more reasonable for a human being to do then say he can only forgive if he sacrifices a life for our sins?
If she accepts God's forgiveness but doesn't believe in him, why won't the sacrifice encompass her? The problem for her to accept a sacrifice she would have to believe in a subjective moral view, that sins can only be forgiven through that means, and she would have to accept a religion to go a long with that. Why is she being forced to accept a religion?
If it is as you say, God wants to forgive her and all she has to do is accept forgiveness, why can't God forgive her if she remains Atheist and wants to be forgiven in the chance that God does exist. Why is it necessary for her to accept a religious dogma for her to be forgiven.
God forgives her _as_ an atheist. He's not the one withholding. All she needs to do is accept it.
You seemed to add dogma back into the mix right after I'd dismissed it. I don't rule out the possibility that there are other ways to achieve fulfillment. I think the xtian bible even states that. Don't ask me where tho lol. This way is already mapped out so should be a lot easier.
Everyone should do their best to be a good human being. I believe positivity like that is acting at or maximum potential, without managing the final hurdle. What faith teaches us is that no effort we can make on our own can make us eligible to be without guilt. For that we need to bridge the gap.
Ok. Person A is a Christian. Person B is an Atheist.
Person A and Person B have about the same good deeds and bad deeds.
Person A feels bad about their sins. Person B also feels bad about their sins. Both regret it.
Both however feel good about what they've done as good deeds, they being far more.
How does accepting the sacrifice of Christ make a person A feel less guilty that person B?
