A new atheist's theories on meta-like physical existence

[The Grand Nudger]

I am interested in theories related to possible material civilizations evolving into beings with metaphysical (in our perception) abilities. Perhaps still being of the natural world; just not natural as we know it. Isn't that very likely considering the scope and complexity of the known universe and beyond?

The scope and complexity of the universe doesn't really have any bearing on that. But it's fun to wonder about - many great books have been written. I'll follow you down the rabbit hole.

Think pre-Big Bang; the Higgs-Boson multiverse. Think Kardashev's civilization scale and what might a highly advanced civilization do to entertain or stimulate their senses?

I can't, every portion of my thought process and all available points of reference or data upon which i can leverage that process are entirely dependent upon a "post" big bang universe. I can, if you'd like, extend all of this to a point where we have absolutely no reason to make any of these assumptions, a point which my process is meaningless, and opine about things as though any of it were even remotely reliable.

How interesting is an ant hill if you dig the tunnels for them? Who bothers to intervene on a moth's behalf when he is being extinguished in the spiders web?

Pretty interesting (lemme find you some youtubes of scientists doing just that in order to observe their response).

If Kardashev is right, aren't we mere moths and spiders from the view of any galactic or multi universe perspective? Even if we elevate our importance to that of sharks and dolphins why would a higher being bother to intervene in nature.

I don't know..I can only tell you why -we- would (and do) intervene.

I understand this is a purely speculative and depressing theory. However, at this stage in my understanding of the universe, it appears to be the most likely possibility.

I'm sorry, rephrase? What is the most likely possibility?

This perspective should satisfy Epicurus's criticism of the traditional maximally metaphysical god. I guess what I am suggesting is a subset of deism. Please share you're thoughts and let me know if you agree with my line of reasoning.

Ah, I see, so - as above, douchegod with no reason to care? That doesn't really satisfy epicuras so much as it confirms epicuras in the most complete fashion that I've ever personally been a party to.

I also considering the possibility that within the earth's 4.5 billion year history that earlier earth civilizations probably evolved on our planet before, but may have not have been able to escape earth's grasp and was extinguished through natural or technological forces. Of course, this lends the possibility that a prior civilization left this planet when the earth became uninhabitable. Natures recycling program start anew.

We can consider that possibility, lets see some evidence (meanwhile understand that we do have evidence that this is -not- the case)?

Personal note: Over the past 30+ years I have evolved from a evangelical Christian with a fundamentalist perspective to a seriously challenged Calvinist to an agnostic and finally to where I have been for the last 6 months as an atheist.

You still have some calvinism showing, above, in the douchegod scenario. But gratz on where you've been relative to where you are. Must have been rough?