RE: Was Jesus a God or a man?
October 1, 2014 at 9:26 am
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2014 at 9:32 am by Hezekiah.)
(October 1, 2014 at 9:13 am)RobbyPants Wrote:(October 1, 2014 at 8:33 am)Hezekiah Wrote: Without the resurrection there is no Jesus. Even Jesus himself knew that he would have to rise again in order for his sacrifice to be worth anything.
His sacrifice was to end legalism, and fulfill the law of the torah so that we were no longer slaves to the law.
Couldn't YHWH have just ended that legalism if he wanted to? The sacrifice was unnecessary in the first place.
Sure, but who knows what "alternatives" could have been or whether there couldn't have been. What makes the fact that YHWH takes the form of a man and lives a human life so necessary, is because he can show us and teach us in actions, as well as mark human experience as sacred and a blessing since God was man. Also it was humans who were in debt and bound by the law and death, so you need a human to conquer the law and death in order for humans to be free.
(October 1, 2014 at 9:17 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(October 1, 2014 at 8:47 am)Hezekiah Wrote: The issue there is that I both accept it as true AND believe it. So in that sense I'm not contradicting my personal belief. (Notice: "my personal belief")That's fine. I'm merely pointing out that it would be contradictory to both declare your "personal belief" in a patently illogical or self-refuting notion AND claim to be reasonable with regards to your "personal belief."
Ah. Gotchya. Never claimed to be reasonable in regards to my personal beliefs
(October 1, 2014 at 9:19 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Also, Jesus fulfiled the law of the torah so we're no longer slaves to the law? So...the rules of the OT don't apply to us anymore?
Nope! That's what free means!
The new law is written on our hearts now. Aka "Love"
