(October 1, 2014 at 10:50 am)ThomM Wrote:(October 1, 2014 at 9:11 am)Drich Wrote: A mirical is acheaving an end through God either through or around the laws of nature, that an indivisual on his own would not be able to do.
Christ didn't have to literally be less boyany than water for a mirical to have happened. a more conventional means could have been employed to the same effect, and it would not be anyless miraculous
1 - The christ cannot be proven to be anything MORE than a MYTH
2 - Since no gods are proven to exist - your claim about a miracle is nonsense as well.
No one can prove that they have achieved an end through a god - or an end around the laws of nature.
Example - no matter how much a person prays - that person will die.
No matter how hard a group prays - they have NEVER achieved the regrowth of a lost limb of a human - even though a salamander can do it.
The christ did not have to be buoyant - fictional characters can do anything the minds of their human creators can bake up - except actually provably exist. Obviously James Bond and Harry Potter achieved things that also cannot actually happen in real life - and are just as real as the christ - ie - not at all.
If christ can not be proven with all that has been written about Him from that time period, then no one else can be 'proven to have existed' of that time period. Fore there are more period manuscripts that Speak to Jesus Christ than any other figure in that period of History. To doubt the existance of Christ given all the same evidences we have on every other Historical figure of that time, is to doubt the existance of everyone else that lived then.
http://www.compellingtruth.org/did-Jesus-exist.html
http://www.debate.org.uk/debate-topics/h...-evidence/