(October 1, 2014 at 9:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(October 1, 2014 at 9:32 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: No its ok, thank you for respectfully asking.
You're asking (correct me if I'm wrong) isn't it wiser to hinge all of those wonderful things I mentioned on something that requires no faith?
I would say no it's not wiser. Because I've already tried doing that and I realized that I am the kind of person that has to put faith in something in order for me to even derive purpose and/or passion from it.
I recall you saying something...just a bit ago, to the effect of "even if there was no god I would still be a christian" - so....that sort of rubs against the appraissal of self you've offered here.
I'm not sure what you mean by "appraissal of self". I wasn't trying to "praise" myself, I was simply stating that I learned that I am the kind of person who needs to put faith in something in order for me to even derive purpose and/or passion from it. This is in fact the reason why I say, even if there was no god I would still be a Christian.
Quote:Even with gnosis - knowledge that there was no god - you'd still be doing the things you're doing. You understand that this creates a nonsensical scenario, yes? You can;t know that there isn't a god and yet have faith that there is. If you could be the person you are with such knowledge...it clearly isn't the faith doing you any favors. Seems to me it;s more like you think the articles of this faith stand on their own merits (no god required) for you, even if only out of practicality.
I would agree with this to a degree, because while I do in fact think the "articles of this faith stand on their own merits" in order for me to have faith in these articles, which are of faith, I must omit the "(no god required)" and believe there is a God for these "articles" to even exist.
Quote:Also what "nasty shit" did I say earlier? (I assume by that you mean hateful or vulgar words) I only recall ever answering your questions about what brought me to belive in God.The loss of this, the loss of that, depression, isolation, etc. Hmn, maybe I'm misremembering?
-nope....nope, that was you.
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