(June 23, 2010 at 5:37 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: There are no deities involved in chess.
And there are no deities involved in atheism.
Quote:But there are in atheism.
BZZZZTTT!!!
Quote:Atheists spend half their time unworshiping God, and other gods.
This doesn't even make sense! Does someone on a hunger strike spend their time uneating?
Quote:They don't just 'not believe in God,' they unbelieve.
Sounds like the same thing to me.
Quote:The difference between 'not believing' and 'unbelieving' is that the latter requires a frequent assertion or thought that one doesn't believe.
So what's the cutoff? If I argue with believers every day, I'm guessing you would say that makes me an "unbeliever". But what if I only argue once a week? Or once every two weeks? Once a month? At what point do I go from "unbeliever" to "not believing"?
Quote:Atheists probably talk about God more than the average believer. So there is definitely a God, or gods, involved in atheism.
Yes, atheists talk about god(s). But you saying that gods are involved in atheism is about as bright as saying that death is involved in opposing capital punishment. (Because opponents of capital punishment talk about death.)
Quote:I'll use the Santa Claus analogy which atheists love to use so much. I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I don't have to constantly repeat that I don't believe in Santa Claus.People who don't believe in Santa Claus don't have to join forums for Santa non-believers.
And what if you were constantly bombarded by people who told you that "Santa" was a real being who had magical powers. And that if you behave badly, "Santa" would put you on the "Naughty List". What if your entire society featured things like "So help me Santa" in oaths, or "In Santa We Trust" on our money? What if people came to your door trying to spread the "Word of Santa". What if people wanted to base our laws on what they think "Santa" would want us to do? What if some believers in "Santa" made it their mission in life to kill those who didn't believe in "Santa"?
Would you then maybe speak out?
Quote:The atheist religion
You want to keep repeating "atheism is a religion" as if that somehow makes it true.
Quote:is one where people share common beliefs,
In that case, a political party is a "religion".
Quote:and spend a lot of time unworshiping (or maligning) God.
I actually spend most of my time unfishing, unrunning, unbowling, ungambling, unsailing my unyacht and unskydiving. I also like to unrape, unkill and unsteal.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?