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[Chas]

Pi and PHI are not ratios in the mathematical sense because ratio means rational number and they are not rational numbers, but because they both are used in geometry, they are called ratios because they are referencing the proportions of whatever shape, hence the golden ratio is aka as the divine proportion.

You are wrong and you contradict yourself. Ratio does not mean rational number.

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You are fundamentally wrong. A ratio is comparing two similiar things. A distance vs another distance in our case.

exactly, as in "the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter", answer me this, where else is Pi used other than in relation to circles or spheres?

I'll use short simple sentences and maybe you'll understand.

The distance between repeating twist in DNA is 34 A. You also claimed 34 A. We agree on that. The diameter of DNA is 23.7 A. You claim it was 21 A. We disagree here. With your numbers, you get the ratio 34 A vs 21 A. So you claim the fibonacci sequence is in DNA. The actual ratio is 34 A vs 23.7 A. This is not the follow fibonacci sequence. Therefore, your claim is wrong!

you are correct! that is not the fibonacci sequence, the fibonacci sequence is a sequence of numbers ( 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55)

What you're talking about is the golden ratio (1.61) 34 divided by 21 = 1.61

you cant take the length and width and call it a ratio, that is the dimensions.

Take the earth for example, the circumference is 40,075 km and diameter is 12,742 km, the ratio of these two numbers are not 40,075 vs 12,742, it is 3.14 therefore "34 A vs 23.7 A." is not a ratio.

Pi is used in far more than that. Do you even math?

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