Logic tells me God doesn't exist but my heart says otherwise.

[Chas]

You misunderstood what I said. We can measure some things, there is no objective measure of 'experience'.

That is true, presently, and it may always be the case...but isn't it a bit too early to be emphatic about? And doesn't that make understanding such states rather significant for the scientist trying to press forward into uncharted territories of the mind's powers or functions and the atheist trying to cope or understand their everyday sensations and perceptions?

I'm all for pushing onward; we can detect and measure things today undreamed of in the past.

My only point is those generate evidence; internal 'feels' don't.