(October 6, 2014 at 1:23 am)Retrolord Wrote: Without Christianity-
1) No Oxford, Cambridge, U of Paris, (Bologna in Italy was perhaps the first) or any other universities.
Universities would have been founded earlier and been funded by secular means.
Quote:2) No one to hold off the Ottomans. If it weren't for the Austrians, 80% of Europe would be Muslim.
No one? Seriously? That statement is so ignorant it deserves no response.
Without religion, there would be no threat of Islam.
Quote:3) The Crusades were bad I agree, but no one ever talks about the Islamic Conquest of Christian Syria and Egypt in the 7th century (Note- I am not anti-Muslim)
Yes, we do comment on the spread of Islam by the sword.
And don't forget the Inquisition and witch trials.
Quote:4) It made for brilliant artwork in the renaissance
Arguably without Islam, Europe wouldn't ever have recovered from the Dark ages.
Arguably, without Christianity, Europe never would have had the Dark Ages.
Quote:So I'm not saying the good things outweigh the bad, just saying we shouldn't condemn certain people by what they believe
I condemn the delusion of faith.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
