Is nihilism the logical extreme of atheism?

[Jenny A]

You claim your knowledge of god is unflawed? On what possible basis?

Limitations are flaws.

Unflawed (eww horrible word ) on the basis that they are so far undefeated.

A perfect sphere is limited in that it cannot be a cube. Does that make it flawed?

Flawless if you like but the point is that limited knowledge is flawed because what we don't know can change our whole perception. That knowledge can't be a cube or fly isn't relevant to knowledge.

If this reality is unjust, it is unjust. Assuming a just god doesn't change it any.

Our perception is what is different, not reality.

Yes but our perceptions neither match, nor change actual reality.

Agreed

"We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the essence of the Father.
God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the Father, by Whom all things came into being, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.
Who for us humanity and for our salvation came down from heaven, was incarnate, was made human, was born perfectly of the holy virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit.
By whom He took body, soul, and mind, and everything that is in man, truly and not in semblance.
He suffered, was crucified, was buried, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven with the same body, [and] sat at the right hand of the Father.
He is to come with the same body and with the glory of the Father, to judge the living and the dead; of His kingdom there is no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, in the uncreated and the perfect; Who spoke through the Law, prophets, and Gospels; Who came down upon the Jordan, preached through the apostles, and lived in the saints.
We believe also in only One, Universal, Apostolic, and [Holy] Church; in one baptism in repentance, for the remission, and forgiveness of sins; and in the resurrection of the dead, in the everlasting judgement of souls and bodies, and the Kingdom of Heaven and in the everlasting life."

This is what is agreed by most churches. It's very broad. The details are either in depute or so undefined as to be meaningless. Certainly justice is not defined in a useful way.

Those are central tenets that I acknowledge. Ok so you showed what we agree upon. Now show me something which, in your opinion, is conflicting to the extent that it should divide us.

Yes but our beliefs don't shape reality, only our understanding of it.

Agreed

Thinking is what describes justice. If it's flawed so is the justice imagined. There are no differing realities, only differing perceptions of reality.

Agreed

We seem to agree on a lot. Where we disagree is threefold:

1) Is there a god ( I say not proven);

2) Does our limited ability to perceive reality allow us know if there is one (I say it doesn't appear too, though if there were one, it could presumably fix that);

3) Justice comes from god (I say it is a human construct rational, but not caused by the material world).

As to whether Christians agree, I would admit that you all think god is just and good. But you seem to disagree about exactly what justice and goodness are.