Is nihilism the logical extreme of atheism?

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Unflawed (eww horrible word ) on the basis that they are so far undefeated.

A perfect sphere is limited in that it cannot be a cube. Does that make it flawed?

Flawless if you like but the point is that limited knowledge is flawed because what we don't know can change our whole perception. That knowledge can't be a cube or fly isn't relevant to knowledge.

If we can know (as I believe we can logically, not acknowledging actual belief at this point) that God is good, then that's quite a lot to go on. Extra knowledge isn't going to change that, for example. So I wouldn't agree that limited is flawed in this sense.

We seem to agree on a lot. Where we disagree is threefold:

1) Is there a god ( I say not proven);

2) Does our limited ability to perceive reality allow us know if there is one (I say it doesn't appear too, though if there were one, it could presumably fix that);

3) Justice comes from god (I say it is a human construct rational, but not caused by the material world).

As to whether Christians agree, I would admit that you all think god is just and good. But you seem to disagree about exactly what justice and goodness are.

1) I say not proven too

2) No

3) I believe in God, and I understand that he is just and more than good. A worldview that supposes justice served includes God in my view, sure.