RE: Is nihilism the logical extreme of atheism?
October 7, 2014 at 5:36 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2014 at 5:45 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(October 7, 2014 at 1:22 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(October 6, 2014 at 9:38 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I don't think that follows. What is it that is inherently good about a creator?
Good as in functional. That's the root meaning of good.
Well, slave labor is functional. So is uninformed medical testing. Shooting someone in the face to take their money works.
Do you want to reword your point yet? I could go on. You're making a material appeal to define your morality.
Christianity ain't what it used to be!
(October 7, 2014 at 1:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(October 6, 2014 at 9:00 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I would argue that emergent properties would answer your objection….what you wrote actually supports what I'm saying: if something cannot be broken down into component processes, but is only present when all the processes are extant, and yet it is more than the sum of those processes, you have an emergent property. It is not "something out of nothing";…Replace “god-did-it” with “emergent-property-did-it” and you can see that the proposed technical sounding mechanism only supplies a promissory note for a future solution that may or may not come.
Except that emergent properties have been observed to occur, while god and crickets seem to be interchangeable.
The emergent property of consciousness has been observed to exist in mammals proportionate to the complexity of their brains.
We're still waiting for the first observation of any god who might have didit.
(October 7, 2014 at 2:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The Christian God is only ever described in the bible as acting justly.
ITT, a Christian defends bashing out the brains of babies as "just."
Stockholm Syndrome, anyone?