(October 9, 2014 at 5:42 pm)ForumMember77 Wrote:(October 9, 2014 at 5:30 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: It's more like Islam is a teenager. And Christianity is middle age.
When Christianity was young, as Islam is today, we called it "The Dark Ages".
I watched the exchange between Affleck and Harris several times, and I have yet to hear anything racist or bigoted from Harris. Criticizing ideas is not bigoted.
I love when Kristol makes Harris' point for him by listing a few Muslims that are heroic for speaking out against Islam extremism.
Not really, whilst it's true Christians were indeed very violent as a peoples around this stage in their.......... shall we say social evolution and reconciliation with the real world.
The founding documents are quite different, the acts of violence are very very different.
More to the point, it was a very bad interpretation of Christianity that allowed things like this to happen.
The bible was kept from the people precisely so they could be told anything was god's will and sent off to war/told to burn their daughters.
Not so much with Islam, quite the opposite. The more of this religions religious text a Muslim reads the more likely he is to be violent, intolerant, sexist etc.
For crying out loud, we are literally comparing a wondering pacifist hippy with a Genghis Khan here......... get over your aversion to noticing it.
I agree with you to a certain extent.
Yet the Bible sill has explicit passages that condone: killing witches, killing those that believe in a different god, having slaves, wiping out the population of cities.
So, even if the authorities kept the Bible from the masses, they were still using passages in the Bible to carrying out their wishes.
And I do agree that there is a clearer path from the Koran to violence than the Bible, but the path still exists in the Bible.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
