RE: Horrible things in the bible
October 9, 2014 at 9:25 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2014 at 9:51 pm by Lek.)
Quote:No according to the Bible he created Adam and Eve and they blew it. Since when is it just to punish people for the crimes of their parents let alone their remote ancestors? Or do you believe that all people commit crimes so heinous that eternal torture is just? Frankly, I don't even believe Stalin or Hitler deserve eternal torment. Eternity is as they say a very long time.When we sin we disobey just as Adam and Eve did. I told you before that I'm not convinced that the bible teaches eternal torment. If it is true, I'll accept it, but it seems a bit much.
Quote:Find me any analogous situation where you would say anything even remotely like sacrificing your own son to get someone else out of prison was a just thing.How about this? What if I stole $1,000 from you and you pressed charges? Then my brother came to you and offered to pay you the $1,000 if you would drop the charges and you agreed?
Quote:Precisely. According to you and the Bible he made the rules. So it is just like the video. Hmmm?He made the rules, but he didn't cause us to break them.
Quote:And the U.S. government isn't forcing you to pay taxes, it's just that they'll lock you up if you don't. Right? Except that they will let you out of prison eventually and they probably won't torture you.Yeah. The US government is much nicer than God. Of course, Al Capone had to die to get out of prison for not paying taxes.
(October 9, 2014 at 8:32 pm)Aractus Wrote: Lek- You don't have testimony of people who witnessed the events described in Genesis, or for that matter Exodus, or from people who wrote it down in a contemporary period. Thus, why do you believe what Genesis and Exodus say?
I don't have testimony from living witnesses that King Henry VIII existed, but I believe he existed. I have testimonies from people I know well of how their lives have been changed and I can see it in their lives.
(October 9, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, I didn't know you were a muslim. And a jew. And a hindu. And a follower of the greek pantheon.
Must be hard, believing all those mutually exclusive testimonies. How do you handle the cognitive dissonance?
I don't accept their beliefs. I must choose one over the others. I choose to accept christianity. I've never done any scientific experiments to prove my beliefs are true, so I guess it doesn't fly with you.
