(October 10, 2014 at 6:11 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No need to prove anything genkaus. My statement was concise. At the moment all you're doing is ridiculing it with no good reason. Others have questioned the detail and I've provided background. All I see is you trolling. I have nothing to respond to. Now if you'd like to make a point, then I might address it. Let me give you a clue though, it isn't looking good for you. You and the other trolls may go hungry.
Concise statements still need to be proven. That no one else has asked you to prove it (they may have, I'm not going to look for it right now), doesn't mean you have escaped the burden of proof. All I see here is you dodging the question.
My point is your presupposition is ridiculous. The idea that assumption of a just reality/god leads to a better morality is nonsensical. If you want us to take any of your arguments seriously, you need to justify your presupposition.
As it is, others and I have already shown how ridiculous your conclusions from those presuppositions are - many times over. I'm going a step further and questioning the presupposition itself. This is the last leg you are standing on and it is about to be cut off.