RE: Is nihilism the logical extreme of atheism?
October 11, 2014 at 11:45 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2014 at 11:47 pm by Mystical.)
(October 11, 2014 at 1:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
Morality restricted by injustice is a limited morality.
Morality unrestricted is not limited.
Therefore morality based upon a fair reality is superior to morality based upon an unfair reality.
Why must there be justice?
To make you feel better about what happened??
If someone killed my family member, its a moot point, really, what happens next. They're dead.
Why do you think revenge in kind-- earthly or supernaturally-- is 'moral' , at all?
I mean, I can see how believing the murderer will 'get his in the end' could soothe your feelings on the matter, but at what cost?
You want all the other non murderers like me who simply don't believe in the afterlife: to suffer eternally as well?
.. Because, that's what your bible says.
We had a whole thread discussion about it, and concluded that you couldn't account for why you believe what you believe about hell, because you have no reason other than your subjective feelings on the matter, to not believe the god of the bible when he said nonbelievers are going to eternal hell.
frodo Wrote:Therefore morality based upon a fair reality is superior to morality based upon an unfair reality.
Being that there is no fair reality whatsoever (killing my brother then me killing or punishing you in this life or the next-- does not bring back my brother), how can you say your reality is superior when the price paid for your fairness, is eternal torture for the majority of your brethren?
Injustice= Reality
(get over it)
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.