(October 11, 2014 at 12:37 pm)Retrolord Wrote: Okay so I was silently observing this thread for about a week now.This is your thread and you abandoned it. You did not want to participate in intelligent discussion with those of us willing to do so.
Quote:The sacrifice of Jesus goes far beyond what you guys call scapegoating.How is this addressing the topic of your thread - "horrible things in the bible"?
Quote:My honest opinion- you don't want to immerse yourselves and find out more about it.My honest opinion is that I've read the Bible a lot more than you have and I'm more familiar with what it contains than you are. So the idea that you come here and tell us we need to "find out more about it" is just plain ridiculous, and lazy on your part since you didn't even quote any of the Bible that you like or think is relevant to the topic of this thread; your thread which you started.
Quote:You don't really want a priest ( yeah now some will make paedophilia jokes) or devout christian to explain it to you.How do you know? You didn't even try to explain anything, and then you're claiming "we don't want you to explain anything"?? How does that work?
Quote:I'm not pointing fingers or insulting anyone. It's just an observationYour observations are pitiful. Here's my observation: You posted a thread and then were not interested in participating in the on-topic discussion in it. In a nutshell: hit and run posting.
Quote:Anyway I returned because I wanted to suggest reading about biblical archaeology and how many places and people they have found.Again, you want to discuss this - by all means. Just because places are real doesn't make the events accurate. The supposed Exodus was written - by the estimate of Evangelical scholars around 1,000 BC - and by the estimate of most other scholars c. 700-600 BC. The supposed Exodus occurred - by the estimate of Evangelical scholars to the 13th century BC or by some to the 15th century BC - and critical scholars don't think it happened at all.
So in the best case scenario you have it written down around 300 years after the event.
Then you have the problem that Egypt actually occupied and controlled the entire Canaan area from the mid 15th century to the mid 12th century and this is confirmed both by hundreds of Cuneiform tablets of communication between Egypt and their Canaanite cities, and by the fact there are three heavily fortified Egyptian strongholds that were used all the way until the mid 12th century - thus it's impossible that the ancient Israelites occupied and controlled the territory at the same time.
Archaeology clearly disproves the biblical narrative. The cities are all real, but they were not conquered by the ancient Israelites - most of them were unoccupied in the 13th century when they were supposed to play an important role (see Joshua chapters 1-12).
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke