Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 20, 2025, 9:10 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
My honest review of Christianity
#80
RE: My honest review of Christianity
(October 19, 2014 at 7:23 pm)Lek Wrote:
(October 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Chas Wrote: Wow. Really?


2 Samuel 12:11-14
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."

These verses refer to God's punishment of King David for his adultery with Bathsheba and the murder of her husband. This promise was fulfilled when David's son Absalom rebelled against David and took his father's concubines and had sex with them. God allowed this to happen just as he allowed countless acts of evil happen. God didn't go to Absalom and tell him to capture David's concubine and rape them, the same as he didn't order the Babylonians to capture and destroy Jerusalem and take the Israelites into captivity as slaves. Absalom committed these acts according to his own choosing after listening to bad advice from his young and inexperienced advisors. It turned out to be a bad decision, by the way for him. God often used evil nations to punish Israel for their disobedience.

Yeah, interpret away all that active language: "I will bring," "I will take," "I will give," and "I will bring down," and call it "allow." Why not? I'm sure all God meant was I'll let people have free will to hurt you.

Did he also just let David and Bathsheba's son die, or did he mean it when he said: "The Lord has remitted your sin, you shall not die. However since you have spurned the enemies of the Lord by this deed, even the child about to be born to you shall die."

So David's sin is remitted in return for the life of an innocent child. God's justice. Gotta love it.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 15, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Surgenator - October 16, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 16, 2014 at 1:07 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by pocaracas - October 16, 2014 at 4:58 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 16, 2014 at 8:50 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 16, 2014 at 9:02 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 16, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 16, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Kowlzer - October 16, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 1:11 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lemonvariable72 - October 18, 2014 at 6:28 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Thackerie - October 18, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by genkaus - October 18, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 2:06 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aractus - October 18, 2014 at 7:29 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 7:54 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aractus - October 18, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Mister Agenda - October 20, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aractus - October 20, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 19, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 19, 2014 at 5:28 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 19, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 19, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 19, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 20, 2014 at 10:30 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 20, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 20, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 20, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 20, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 20, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 20, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 20, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 20, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 20, 2014 at 8:33 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aractus - October 20, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 10:46 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aractus - October 20, 2014 at 2:22 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 20, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by TreeSapNest - October 18, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by TreeSapNest - October 18, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by TreeSapNest - October 18, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by TreeSapNest - October 18, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 18, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Whateverist - October 18, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aractus - October 18, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 10:09 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 10:23 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by genkaus - October 18, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Minimalist - October 18, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by genkaus - October 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 18, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2014 at 12:41 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by genkaus - October 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by genkaus - October 18, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 18, 2014 at 3:49 pm
Re: RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 18, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 2:12 pm
Re: RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 18, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 18, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 18, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 19, 2014 at 1:22 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - October 19, 2014 at 7:59 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 19, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Brian37 - October 19, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 19, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 19, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 19, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Vivalarevolution - October 20, 2014 at 8:00 am
earliest case of pedophilia in the bible - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 20, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 20, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 20, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 20, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 20, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by TreeSapNest - October 20, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 20, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by pocaracas - October 20, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 20, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 20, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aractus - October 20, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 20, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 22, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 22, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 22, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 22, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 22, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 22, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - October 22, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - October 22, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 22, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 22, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 22, 2014 at 11:14 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 23, 2014 at 9:00 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 22, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 22, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 23, 2014 at 9:02 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by bennyboy - October 23, 2014 at 9:19 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 23, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 23, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 23, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Jenny A - October 22, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 22, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - October 22, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - October 22, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Surgenator - October 22, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 22, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Surgenator - October 22, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Minimalist - October 22, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 23, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Chas - October 23, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 23, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 23, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 23, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by Aoi Magi - October 23, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 23, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by JesusHChrist - October 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by DeistPaladin - October 23, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 23, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: My honest review of Christianity - by dyresand - October 23, 2014 at 12:34 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Let's be honest Kingpin 109 16847 May 21, 2023 at 5:39 am
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  My honest reason for disliking the idea of God purplepurpose 47 10367 December 11, 2016 at 6:50 pm
Last Post: Athena777
  my total review of muslim *uncensored* dyresand 15 5618 October 30, 2014 at 2:35 pm
Last Post: dyresand
  [split] Agnostic atheism is the only intellectually honest position Scented Nectar 38 18457 August 1, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Last Post: Scented Nectar



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)