(October 21, 2014 at 7:13 am)Arkwright Wrote: Hi guys
I'm new here and was prompted to join to try and improve my counter arguments to some of the claims I see made by those who believe in the existence of God/Gods.
Specifically I would like to know how people would respond to the following which has just been put to me by a long time friend.
I responded to a facebook post he made regarding the recent discovery in the Vatican claiming someone had found a document outlining amongst other things a miracle performed by Jesus on a stillborn child. I think I have countered this particular claim well enough but my friend has come back to me with a personal account of how he had a persistent debilitating back problem for over 11 years and one day whilst talking to his pastor about it, his pastor said he would pray for him there and then. My friend then claims his back problem was cured instantly and that he even felt a hand enter his body and manipulate his back.
Now I have no desire to call my friend a liar because he clearly believes something happened that day, but I do feel the need to respond to counter his belief that it was a miracle of some sort.
Can anyone suggest how I respond to him?
Thank you in advance.
Ask your friend how he knows what it feels like to have a hand enter his body.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech