Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 3, 2024, 3:58 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Our society values blind optimism.
#20
RE: Our society values blind optimism.
(October 21, 2014 at 11:03 am)rasetsu Wrote: I wonder if optimism is really a superior strategy to realism or pessimism. As a species, we seem biased towards optimism. However to assume that it has adaptive value just because we're biased toward it is I think an improper leap. Wayne Gretzsky said that you miss 100% of the shots that you do not take. However, you also miss shots for taking them too early, or turning over the puck because you thought you had a shot when you didn't and so on. Surely conservatism must open as many opportunities as optimism. Is there any real reason to suspect one is naturally a better strategy than the other? I don't know. As atheists, seemingly most here have opted for the realistic avenue rather than the optimistic belief in gods in spite of the lack of evidence for them. Is this then a less productive strategy to take to the question of theism?

I suppose if one general stance was always (or even usually) better, we'd be well evolved to take that stance. Instead, we see a variety of stances not only in people, but apparently in animals too. I'd say (now that I've thought about it a little more) in general optimism will tend to magnify chances of both risk and reward, while pessimism will tend to minimize them. Only a Caesar will ever reap the near-absolute rewards of a Caesar. However, many of his men (and lesser men in the Senate) obviously outlived him, so hrrrmmm.

As for religious faith, I think that is very much a decision to be optimistic even in the face of evidence that you probably shouldn't be. In other words, you are going to leave everything, possibly even your survival, in "God's" hands, and let it all hang out. As a statement about reality, religion is almost for sure false. As a psychological trick geared toward creating a confident, successful, society, I think it has worked pretty well historically.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Our society values blind optimism. - by MusicLovingAtheist - October 17, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by FatAndFaithless - October 17, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Thumpalumpacus - October 17, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by TreeSapNest - October 20, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Thumpalumpacus - October 22, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by stonedape - October 18, 2014 at 5:03 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Aractus - October 18, 2014 at 5:14 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Lemonvariable72 - October 18, 2014 at 5:49 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by stonedape - October 19, 2014 at 1:45 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by stonedape - October 21, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Losty - October 19, 2014 at 2:22 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Mudhammam - October 19, 2014 at 6:52 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by bennyboy - October 21, 2014 at 9:47 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Tonus - October 21, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Angrboda - October 21, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by bennyboy - October 21, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Tonus - October 22, 2014 at 9:06 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by paulpablo - October 21, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by JeffofGallifrey - October 22, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by Losty - October 22, 2014 at 12:49 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by JeffofGallifrey - October 22, 2014 at 1:05 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2014 at 2:01 am
RE: Our society values blind optimism. - by bennyboy - October 22, 2014 at 9:37 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  On theism, why do humans have moral duties even if there are objective moral values? Pnerd 37 4595 May 24, 2022 at 11:49 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
Lightbulb Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy Macoleco 46 5108 September 13, 2019 at 7:09 pm
Last Post: Belacqua
  The Objective Moral Values Argument AGAINST The Existence Of God Edwardo Piet 58 15872 May 2, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  There are no higher emotions/values Transcended Dimensions 58 13784 April 30, 2018 at 4:19 pm
Last Post: Edwardo Piet
  close knitted society is good for mental health DramaQueen 3 1246 August 18, 2014 at 1:01 pm
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  Blind faith and evolution Little Rik 654 243670 October 2, 2013 at 10:00 am
Last Post: Little Rik
  A case for cannibalism in society liam 83 32052 September 19, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Last Post: liam
  Materialism Is good for society freedomfighter 18 7013 August 12, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  Thoughts on society and the human race TheYoungAtheist 82 23805 July 26, 2011 at 3:23 am
Last Post: Rayaan
  Do the Smurfs provide a good model for society? | BBC Anymouse 19 9103 July 4, 2011 at 2:13 am
Last Post: Epimethean



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)