Ministers Threatened with Jail/Fines For Refusing to Officiate at Gay Weddings

[Heywood]

The bullshit about first amendment is utterly disingenuous. No one is abridging the right of the religious to say anything they like. What is being denied them is what they were never entitled to in the first place but were given as an ill considered courtesy, which is qualification as substitution for recognized civil secular institution.

For most of Western History marriage was simply a private contract between two families and the state had nothing to do with it. The concept of the state granting you permission to get married by issuing you a license is a relatively recent concept and in my opinion....an immoral one. Marriage is a personal liberty and not some privilege that is granted to people by the state.....or a Church for that matter.

You make it sound like the state granted religion the power to marry people which is bull shit. Marriage ceremonies were being preformed by religious and recognized by society at large well before the state ever got involved. State recognition of religious marriage ceremonies was not some courtesy as you errantly suggest. It was just a convenient way for the state to take over an aspect of peoples lives they previously had no part of.