RE: Why Something Rather Than Nothing?
October 23, 2014 at 9:10 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2014 at 9:53 pm by datc.)
(October 23, 2014 at 7:56 pm)bennyboy Wrote:How can you call yourselves atheists, if you don't even know what it is whose existence you are denying?(October 23, 2014 at 3:43 pm)rasetsu Wrote: How do you know this?The truest kind of knowledge is the knowledge of that which one makes up. You must not doubt datc's knowledge of God, because it is the truest kind.
Before you can say "God does not exist," you must at least know what the word "God" means.
That God is pure actuality is a proposition so basic and so far-reaching in natural theology that anyone with the remotest acquaintance with the concept of God would recognize it instantly.
Since, of course, you have no idea what "pure act" means, either, you cannot deny that God is pure act.
And I am not here to babysit you.
(October 23, 2014 at 7:49 pm)whateverist Wrote:I am looking for a causal explanation of the something. My asking the question did not cause the actual world.(October 22, 2014 at 10:52 pm)datc Wrote: I ask: Why is there something rather than nothing?The question is pointless. It can only be asked from the point of view of something that is already here. So you might just as well conclude there is something rather than nothing because the question has been asked.
(October 23, 2014 at 7:35 pm)Surgenator Wrote:Tell to the evolutionary process which, as some people have boldly asserted, has been able to solve a vast number of problems of building highly complex biomechanical systems in cells, organs, and the entire human body, with the help of trial-and-error random mutations (and natural selection).Lets look at the definitions of intelligence and random.
Intelligence: the ability to apply knowledge.
Random: without definite aim, direction, rule, or method.
An intelligent processes decides by appling some knowledge learned from the situation i.e. it is using a method to decide. A random process is the opposite of that by definition.
Even a blind watchmaker has some IQ.
Quote:I have no idea what Buridan's ass comes into play. It has to deals with free will, which is not what we are talking about.Every number looks the same to me; so, I can't choose any particular one.
Anyway, I think we've already agreed to disagree whether a mechanical RNG can pick a random number from -infinity to +infinity, (1) such that it is possible for it to pick every number and (2) given that the probability of choosing any given number is zero.
An intelligent world generator is also in trouble when dealing with actual infinities. But at least he can narrow down the choices to a finite set by considering the purpose to which he wants to put the world to be picked.