RE: Richard Dawkins' Faith In Free Will Is As Blind As A Christians To God
July 4, 2010 at 6:50 am
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2010 at 6:51 am by Purple Rabbit.)
(July 4, 2010 at 6:29 am)Cecco Wrote: you're attitude toward debate is narrow minded, instead of saying 'i don't quite understand you, what do you mean?' you prefer 'i don't quite understand you, so you are a moron, for I am the superman who surfs the pseudo intellectual forums of the interweb between acts of onanism to bully anonymous avatars with my everything in it's right place mentality'.So asking for your argument is narrow minded and labeling Dawkins as an endorser of free will without a referenced quote isn't? Get a life. You are the one asserting here that determinism implies a fixed state for religion. If you don't understand what determinism means YOU should have asked the question how determinism reconciles with the phenomenon of religion instead of labeling Dawkins up front.
(July 4, 2010 at 6:29 am)Cecco Wrote: Of course it's paraphrasing! I did it, I should know. What are you debating there? Thought I was talking about Dawkins doing the paraphrasing? That's because that's the answer you wanted to hear.It seemed to me you were "paraphrasing" words of Dawkins into something that he did not say. Paraphrasing means restating without loss of meaning. You can't paraphrase his words into a belief in free will.
(July 4, 2010 at 6:29 am)Cecco Wrote: All i'm saying is that as far as determinism goes, there is no evidence for it or against,...What?? Am I reading this right? Now you say that there is no evidence for determinism. Please explain to me.
(July 4, 2010 at 6:29 am)Cecco Wrote: yet dawkins believes we can change the human animal by conscious will. he says religion can be educated out of us. i need not get a quote, we all know this. religion is part of what it is to be the human animal, the human animal is biologically retarded. get used to it. i imagine you may know this well anyway.You don't seem to register the difference between
a) how education influences people (btw, you did have some kind of education I presume?) within a fully deterministic reality, and
b) the inevitability of future events should we know them
I don't have any objection that you label yourself as a retarded animal, but son I'm sorry, you DO need quotes here for the bold assertions you're making. So, again, please give a referenced quote in which Richard Dawkins is endorsing acausal free will.
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Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0