(October 23, 2014 at 11:15 pm)datc Wrote:It's good that you don't subscribe to the evolution-is-random BS. Your response was typical of many that do, hense my responce. I'm sorry for grouping you with the evolution-is-random croud.(October 23, 2014 at 10:34 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Here's the old evolution is a random process BS. Evolution is not random.Did I say evolution was random? Wtf? I explicitly pointed out that evolution involves a random process of mutations which is complemented with a deterministic process of natural selection.
Both randomness and necessity are individually necessary and jointly sufficient for evolution to proceed.
Random mutations provide the variations necessary to sort organisms into fit and unfit. The fit survive, and the unfit perish deterministically.
Quote:You keep on using the word intelligence, but it seems like you don't know it means. You should look up its definition. And look up the definition of random while your at it.Quote:Our disagreement is your assertion that a random choice requires intelligence. From the definitions of intelligence and random, your assertion is wrong. I'm still waiting for a good counter to this.The bug in my example has been programmed whether by evolution or by something else to engage its RNG routines to escape from danger.
Randomness solves problems; hence it is low-level intelligence. It's an analogy.
Random is not a low-level intelligence, it is ZERO INTELLIGENCE. Just because it sometimes stumbles on a solution, does not mean it is intelligent.
Quote:No. If I really spent the time to make it, it would take me about 1 hour to make the RNG. And a fraction of second to for the RNG to pick a value.Quote:Also, I can create a RNG that can pick a number from -infinity to infinitiy.Only if you have infinite computational resources.