(October 26, 2014 at 8:52 pm)Heywood Wrote: Suppose the North Korean government was the only government in the world. That would be bad. Suppose ISIS ran the world....that would be bad. While many governments increase the chances that there will be some bad governments....it also increases the chances there will be some good governments.Okay, so how different would things have to be for a one world government to work? How radical of a change do you think society would have to undergo for it to be possible? Or, regardless of any sort of change, would a one world government simply not be the ideal situation for world peace and consensus?
(October 26, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: We already have that in global corporatism. Banks and fuel are investments friend and foe, open and closed societies invest in.I agree that economic globalization has been increasing as of recent years. What would a completely globalized economy look like? Or is it even possible to define that, to draw that line?
(October 26, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Which brings me to something I wanted to ask you in your introduction thread, why do you think the guy in your avatar is so great? Che was an opportunist nothing more. What he built is nothing any open society would want to live in.Let's start with the agreement first that I 'think he is great.' I would not so much say he is 'great,' nor would I say I admire his political policies as much as I admire him for being one of those people in the history of the world that was able to drastically alter things with a specific vision in mind. As to whether or not Cuba ended up exactly how Ernesto Guevara envisioned it, I couldn't say. I can say however that I am confident that whatever he did, it was for the love of the PEOPLE of Cuba, not hatred for the government. Also I think he is a very well written author, read The Motorcycle Diaries when you have a chance.
I admire this passion and willingness to change things. Now one could point to the example of Adolf Hitler to which I would reply that I also admire his passion and willingness to change things as much as I may disagree with his vision and plan... as much as I may think that he was a very misguided, manipulative and violent human being, that ability to change things is what we all need to keep in mind when a society comes to a position where its people are being misused or mistreated to an extent that said people find said conditions unacceptable. There is a general attitude amongst many people that one person cannot change anything in this society. And though that may be true to SOME EXTENT, one person's vision CAN spark the change necessary to improve society as a whole.
(October 26, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You do not simply have a revolution to have one. The Russian revolution was the result of centralized wealth in one class. Which simply shifted the wealth to a party. Jefferson supported the French Revolution and that ended up with a dictator.Well I am sorry that you hate libertarians. I consider myself a Libertarian Socialist (which is not a contradiction despite what many believe), so I suppose you don't care for me much? Regardless I do not think a one world government is realistic considering the current state of the world (as limited as my understanding of the entire world may be, mind you), but I think in an ideal situation a one world government would be great.. where everyone simply acted in the interest of the whole rather than in the interest of the self. Now is a OWG necessary for that? I don't know maybe I am being an idealist.
I am no fan of our corporate owned government, but that is not the fault of the Constitution anymore than you can blame a hammer for the user bashing someones skull in. I am no Ayn Rand atheist and I hate libertarians even more than republicans because they are simply republicans on steroids.
But I am also not for a Cuba style government either. They have no political diversity and speaking out against the government is not acceptable there. Cheap food and healthcare and free education can be obtained without setting up one party rule.
I think Europe and Canada and Australia are examples of balance, although global corporatism is trying to break them as well.
But no, there will never be a one world government in the context having one entity or one global state. I find it absurd in a diverse species to expect all 7 billion of us to be on the same page.
I do think what is more reasonable is that we promote the idea that our common needs should be a bigger priority than our differences.
I also think that the United States of America could learn much from Europe and Canada, especially in terms of health care and the like.
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It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll