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Poll: Universal moral truths exist
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Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"?
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
(October 30, 2014 at 9:22 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote:
(October 30, 2014 at 9:07 pm)JuliaL Wrote: I vote no twice.

There are definitions of rape in which rape occurs if the subject being coerced into sex does not or cannot give informed consent to a sex act.
Hence, in the case of person engaging in sex with a rock or other inanimate object, the definition holds that this is rape. I'd be hard pressed to view this as wrong.

In my view, morality is an emergent pattern in which some actions are seen as preferable from the perspective of an agent if they enhance the probability that the agent will persist and reproduce. A consistency in this pattern is that the perspective of the agent varies depending on contributing parameters. For instance, it would be a positive moral action for a religion to proselytize and coerce converts, from the perspective of the religion. From the perspective of the converts, the heathens in the village next door being forcibly engulfed, such coercion by the religion could be viewed as a negative moral action. I see morality occurring on many levels of system complexity and often a single action will be seen as correct or incorrect depending on the perspective of whose ox is being gored. Outside of actions taken within these replicating systems, I do not see morality existing at all, much less absolutely. Where is the flame when the candle is not lit?

Bacon: good for breakfast, bad for the pig.

So then... since you don't seem to want to take this seriously, lets narrow the field... Do you agree with me that it is NEVER good to rape a child, or do you hold it is SOMETIMES good?

Not serious? Did you actually read his answer?
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr... - by Chas - October 30, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"? - by Surgenator - October 31, 2014 at 12:29 am

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