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Poll: Universal moral truths exist
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Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"?
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
(October 30, 2014 at 10:01 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote:
(October 30, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: You seem to be consistently conflating universality as applied by the subject with universality in and of itself.

It's a murky, deep area of the marsh that's being treaded on but your questions keep skipping across only the surface.

I already said that the person making the judgement as to it always being wrong is myself. I did not say that meant it was universally true absent of my particular judgement.

So then do you alternatively believe that rape in and of itself is not wrong? It's "wrongness" only depends on ones opinion?

I find it wrong in and of itself. The victims find it wrong. The perpetrators don't. I think they're assholes. That's how it goes, it's not rocket science.

The reason I don't accept universal truth in terms of morality is actually derived more from epistemology rather than being self-contained within its own branch of philosophy. To declare a universal truth is to declare absolute certainty on the matter. This is not possible. It's the same reason I consider myself an agnostic atheist rather than a gnostic one. I don't think my reasons for disbelieving in gods are lesser than those of a gnostic atheist, similarly, I don't think my reasons for universally considering rape as always wrong within valid contexts are any lesser than somebody that would claim it is universally true objectively speaking.

The difference is I don't assume the position of infallibility.
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr... - by Tartarus Sauce - October 30, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"? - by Surgenator - October 31, 2014 at 12:29 am

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