Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"?

[Tsun Tsu]

What does it mean to say that the "truth is larger than the world"? Do you mean to say that the truth exists apart from the world?

The world is about twenty-seven thousand miles at the Equator. How big is this truth of yours?

I think you're making a category error with this prose here.

By universally true, it doesn't matter if rape occurs within our galaxy, it is wrong... outside the universe, it is wrong. For instance, when, where and under what condition is raping a child "good", or is t simply universally wrong?

[quote='Tsun Tsu' pid='786550' dateline='1414718037']not made of matter... rape is not a chemical reaction. On the other hand, if one holds that rape is not always bad, then the Atheist is faced with the dilemma of providing an instance where it is "good".

[quote=you]I thought the example I provided was pretty good.

Another instance where it could be considered good is if a species which reproduces by rape is about to go extinct; rape may preserve the biodiversity of the planet.

Are you on record then as saying that you believe rape in this case is good?

And how about child abuse?

Is it universally true that child abuse is wrong? Or are there instances where it is "good"?

I can't conceive of any instances where I'd find child abuse morally correct. But I'm not so arrogant as to think that everyone must share my views. I consider it wrong. I don't consider myself the arbiter of everyone's morality.

So then in your view rape is only wrong for those who deem it so? It is not wrong in and of itself? If this is so, do you support forcing your view on society or do you believe we should allow rape? Is it possible to violate matter and chemical reaction morally?