Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"?

[Tsun Tsu]

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Because it violates the most helpless and weakest of us, but I find rape itself an immoral personal violation regardless of innocent and helpless natures. How about you... why do you find it immoral?

If violation of only the helpless and weakest constitute rape, then is rape of someone strong and powerful ok?

You know that's not what I said whatsoever. I went on in the very same post to say ALL rape is wrong.

As I said before, morality is a human construct for the better progress of our society. In pedophilia, an adult harms a person(child) both mentally and physically when they are not developed enough for sex. This act harms the child on many different levels, and is in turn detrimental to the progress of our society and us as a species. If the physical and mental capacity of a 6yr old human child enabled it to have sex without any harmful effects, then it wouldn't be considered immoral. Thus it is dependent on our human biology, not a universal law.

So you think rape is fine as long as someone is capable of having sex physically and mentally and emotionally?

And do you agree with me there is never a time that it is good? And if you agree with me, then you do realize you are now believing in a moral absolute. How does one explain the existence of moral absolutes (aka also universal truths)?

Again, don't jump to conclusions like that. Rape is considered a crime because it is harmful to us and the society as per the current conditions, thus it is not good. If in a weird hypothetical situation, getting raped was the only way to, let's say, cure cancer or cure a mental disorder, then it wouldn't be considered immoral.

But rape doesn't heal cancer... so when it is actually wrong?

Just because something only applies to us humans doesn't make it universal when it doesn't apply to other animals, unless you consider the humans to be the sole species comprising this entire universe.

We are speaking of it being universally and absolutely wrong to rape a human. I frankly believe its wrong to rape sheep and dogs too, but for the sake of simple conversation I am limiting this to humans :p

So when is it good for a HUMAN to rape a HUMAN, or is it absolutely wrong universally in spite of opinion?