RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
October 31, 2014 at 1:26 am
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2014 at 1:28 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(October 30, 2014 at 11:17 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: Are you on record then as saying that you believe rape in this case is good?
In what case? In the case of Hitler v LA Lakers et al? Or Mr Wolverine v Mrs Wolverine?
You want me to say rape is good, I get it. But you're going to have to be more sophisticated, because your rhetorical thrust is thoroughly transparent.
I've given you two examples where I thought rpae might have a beneficial outcome. Are those good to you, in a moral sense?
(October 30, 2014 at 11:17 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: So then in your view rape is only wrong for those who deem it so? It is not wrong in and of itself?
I think it is wrong in and of itself. But I don't possess the keys to the abstract. My judgement isn't perfect. Is yours? Do you think rape is wrong all the time? What if rape is the criminally adjudicated punishment for a rapist? What if rape is the only way the yellow-bearded crocodile can avoid extinction?
Is killing always wrong? What if you're killing someone because you're starving to death? What if you're killing someone because of your flagpole rag? What if you're killing someone because they're trying to kill you?
You see, morality isn't as didactic as you wish it to be -- and you obviously have an agenda you're pushing, you're not conducting a study, or else you'd quit advocating a position and simply take answers -- morality is a complex thing, no matter how much you would deny that.
(October 30, 2014 at 11:17 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: If this is so, do you support forcing your view on society or do you believe we should allow rape?
Anyone literate in English would understand my answer, already given ("I don't consider myself the arbiter of everyone's morality.") Are you illiterate in English? Do you need this explained to you? Surely you're intelligent enough to derive the implications of that statement and understand that I don't think I should force my own opinions onto society at large ... aren't you?
(October 30, 2014 at 11:17 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: Is it possible to violate matter and chemical reaction morally?
I'm going to take a guess and say that you're taking Phi 101 in your first semester. You haven't gotten to Phi 104, where you learn about things like fallacies (category error, in this quote).
And I will reiterate my earlier point: you're not conducting a study, or else you'd quit advocating a position and simply take answers.
Your obvious advocacy belies your intent. You're not nearly as clever as you think you are.
