Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[Jenny A]

Then you are just plain unobservant.

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The very existence of Homer is questioned by scholars. And if he existed, it is certain that The Iliad and the Odyssey were oral tradition long before they were ever written down. http://www.ancientgreece.com/s/People/Homer/

Plato certainly existed. He is attested to by a variety of contemporary sources. His style is consistent and we can be pretty sure that the same man wrote his histories. But we don't have everything he wrote and we aren't sure that all of what is attributed to him was written by him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato

We don't have contemporary sources for Herodotus, but he does write in the first person and much of what he observes can be verified. His writings are not taken as gospel proof of what he says though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus

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Maybe i was unclear, when I made this statement..

It always seems that as it relates to the Bible, the guy who's name is on a particular book, never actually wrote it. why is this? This is never said about Plato, or Herodotus... strange

It was in reference to the members of this forum. If I were to post the writing of Plato here, no one would question if he existed, but according to Minimalist for example, the apostle Paul never existed, despite there being just as much evidence if not more, for Paul as there is Plato.

Well, Min can be rather extreme. And frankly there is legitimate question about the varacity of the Bible OT and NT. But I certainly would not assume Homer is a real person or that what he says in the Iliad is history anymore than the Tanakh is history. There is rather more evidence of Plato than Paul, really there is. He wrote himself, and his pupils, particularly Aristotle wrote about him. And the earliest extant copies of Plato's Dialogs date all the way back to the 800s, about 400 years before the first extant copies of any part of the OT.Dating the BiblePlato Pauls letters and the descriptions of him in Acts disagree. None the less, I'm sure Paul existed. You can make a better case for either Paul or John the Baptist than Jesus.