RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
November 3, 2014 at 12:52 pm
(October 30, 2014 at 7:05 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: I'm very sorry. In the last post I seem to have not made myself clear. I apologize for this. The information I am compiling is a comparative study on Theistic and Atheistic values and convictions, and their impact on society.
Also since it seems someone took me wrong when I said I wouldn't challenge the belief stated, I guess we can do that in this thread too if you like.
So the question... Does absolute universal moral truth exist? Is there ANYTHING where it can be said that it is morally true universally?
For instance: "Rape is ALWAYS wrong" <<<This would be considered a moral truth. Is it universally true? Is it true even if society deemed that rape was perfectly acceptable?
It depends on the definition of rape.
If rape is just the act of forced sexual intercourse then no it's not wrong because without doing this a lot of the animal kingdom wouldn't have sex and be able to breed, sex is often roughly forced, in my opinion probably why so many women enjoy rough sex and have rape fantasies now even though we live in a society where rape is less prevalent.
If rape is only counted as rape when it's forced sex among humans then in my opinion it's wrong. But then I'm saying this while sat in a comfy house in a relatively nice, non war torn country, with a girlfriend who I have sex with around 5 or 6 times a week so it's easy for me to say that.
I'm not totally oblivious and ignorant so that I don't understand why rape happens in war torn parts of the world when soldiers are probably mentally disturbed from being in a war in the first place and are deprived of sex for so long, and to be blunt they probably don't give a shit if it is wrong they probably just want sex, and they want it before they have their bones and flesh smashed to pieces by bullets or landmines.
But yes I do think forced sex among people is wrong no matter what the situation.
There's also the legal definition of rape which could be having sex with someone under the age of consent, which isn't wrong in my opinion within certain circumstances, for example a 17 year old having sex with a 15 year old, they wear a condom, have a good time and that's all that happens.
Or even if they don't wear a condom and the girl gets pregnant, worse things have happened, it's not the crime of the century.
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