RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
November 10, 2014 at 1:32 am
(November 8, 2014 at 8:51 am)whateverist Wrote:God has revealed himself through general revelation (nature), science interprets nature; and scripture - scholars, theologians, etc interpret scripture. Below is the belgic confessions that defines the subject. If nature and scripture are correctly and fully interpreted, they will be without contradiction.(November 7, 2014 at 1:07 pm)comet Wrote: something started it. Unless you are in the nothing camp.
"Science" uses every solution to rule out "smarts" or "universe making a choice". The theists could use this knowledge. But then again, "science" doesn't do a thing does it? The easiest thing to rule out is "nothing" doing it. I think.
Something started what? That means absolutely nothing to me. Stuff was here yesterday and the day before and on back as far as we know. Before there was stuff there was a big bang. Before that we just don't know but I personally can't imagine there isn't another mega scale of things from which singularities are common place. On some level of description, universes probably reside one packed cheek to jowl with its neighbors on all sides. From within any one universe you'll never be able to detect the others for a number of good reasons.
Want to ask what started the multiple universes popping in and out of existence? Why bother, we are in no position to answer the question. Likewise with the question of origins. It is beyond our ken. From the fact that origins are beyond our comprehension, no assumptions follow.
Article 2 - How God Makes Himself Known to Us
We know Him by two means: First, by the creation, preservation, and government of the universe; which is before our eyes as a most beautiful book, wherein all creatures, great and small, are as so many letters leading us to perceive clearly the invisible things of God, namely, His eternal power and deity, as the apostle Paul says (Rom 1:20). All these things are sufficient to convict men and leave them without excuse. Second, He makes Himself more clearly and fully known to us by His holy and divine Word as far as is necessary for us in this life, to His glory and our salvation.
http://wscal.edu/about-wsc/welcome-to-ws...onfession/
scripture give information about eschatology. for instance, the present universe: “will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up”, so without this additional revelation, we wouldn’t know that. Science just simply projects the known facts that the 2’nd law of thermo. and dark energy is stretching the fabric of space to the point where the universe goes to near absolute zero (same amount of heat, in more area) when not even the protons are spinning around the atom in around 1 trillion years.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.