(November 15, 2014 at 1:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(November 15, 2014 at 1:07 pm)Heywood Wrote: You don't need to make a moral compromise.LOL, yes...yes I do. You see, I find the very notion of torture to be morally abhorrent. Yet, I'm willing to do that which is morally abhorrent (to me) if a competent case can be made. I almost fixed your post by the way, "torture can be used for evil or lesser evil". Just so you know where I'm coming from.
Quote:You might need to torture someone by incarceration because they committed murder.Hmn, failed equivocation. One thing did amuse me though...why would I need to do that? What need is being met? What sorts of needs do you think I have......? I think that you might be describing a psychotic, a person that "needs" to torture people. I've never personally encountered that need - though I have encountered both murderers and children who avoid their homework. How about yourself? What's you experience (if any) with this need?
You might need to torture a child by yelling at them because they didn't do their homework.
I'd still like some clarification as to what we're going to accomplish with torture (as per my previous post).
Quote:There are all sorts of reasons to inflict pain or mental anguish onto someone else for the purpose of punishment.Name one?
We want to be safe so we lock up murderers. We need to be taken care of in our old age so we educate our children to maximize their productivity and hope they are productive enough to take care of us.
I think you and I agree that sometime torture is just a practical necessity.....or at least could be. Where we differ is my willingness to call any mental or physical anguish imposed by one person on another for the purpose of punishment or information extraction torture while you seem unwilling to do so.
I gave you a couple of examples of torture. You don't accept them as legitimate examples of torture because to you....they aren't severe.
Why does mental or physical anguish have to be severe to be torture?
