RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 26, 2014 at 2:17 am
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2014 at 2:52 am by Godscreated.)
(November 25, 2014 at 10:21 pm)whateverist Wrote:(November 25, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: God chose to work through man, it's man's responsibility to inform and man's responsibility to listen to those God's working through. Why just why did you have to end your questioning with such a response, was it to irritate me?
GC
Yeah, probably. Maybe just a bad day. Sorry about that. I withdraw the last question. You might have noticed I left it off of that thread I created in the Christian section using the first four questions.
I do still wonder why God, if such a thing existed, would leave out whatever it is that permits himself to have both free will and a non-sinful nature. Man's nature was His doing according to you.
Actually I wondered why you left it out, the question did not offend me, it was the remark after the question, all was good up to the very last words., I enjoyed answering them.
GC
(November 25, 2014 at 9:19 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: The "Tree of Knowledge" part of it always gives me a chuckle. It's literally God punishing his creations for daring to obtain knowledge. If that isn't an apropos description of religion itself, I don't know what is.
Beyond that, the story is just dumb. Why did God put the tree there? Why did he allow the snake to live there? Why is that minor transgression responsible for humans to never gain access to the Garden ever again? Although, that last part at least fits his assholish "transgress against me, and you'll pay for it eternally" schtick he's partial to. You know, when he's not ordering/committing genocide or fratricide.
You are very deficient in your knowledge of the Bible. God never had a problem with knowledge, it was the kind of knowledge they acquired He had a problem with and the disobedience to get that knowledge.
Why wouldn't He, He created the garden so is seems sensible that God could put whatever He wanted to in the garden.
Well it wasn't a snake, snakes do not have legs, have you even read scripture, you're get things all wrong. The answer to the serpent question is the same as above.
Minor transgression, when did God make you a judge of what is major or minor, disobedience was major because it brought sin into the creation and as a result death came. The garden will be enjoyed by all who accept Christ as their savior.
By your last comment I'm guessing you didn't even know about the NT.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.