(July 16, 2010 at 1:32 am)padraic Wrote:
That's the problem Jesus teaches there is only one path to God, through him. In him stating himself I think his intent was that only though an understanding of God (taught by Jesus and written on the hearts)
can we be saved. Seeking forgiveness is selfish and against the forgiveness already granted through Jesus' sacrifice. It's not about the prize or torment at the end of the road is what I'm saying, It's about accepting a path and walking it and ending up wherever you do, one step at a time. What growth can be done from fear? None, it's stifiling and what is there to fear with God on your side. People who teach out of fear are trying to line their pockets because the masses will accept anything with a threat or promised reward behind it.
(July 16, 2010 at 2:32 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:The messsage of salvation Jesus brought was a common type of salvation, whom all may partake in and this is commonly missed when attempting to force others into your beliefs instead of simply sharing.
That's a commercial, Tack. And like most commercials you have no evidence to back up your claims.
I don't deal in "belief," remember. I deal in facts. You rely on a long list of con artists to give you this supposed "message."
Do you mean a literal commercial? really, If you did, I don't think I've ever seen it and didn't intend to quote anything. I know you don't deal in goat herder scribblings, hence why I don't even bring them up, despite your arguement from false authority.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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