RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 26, 2014 at 2:49 pm
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2014 at 3:17 pm by Godscreated.)
(November 26, 2014 at 9:34 am)Nope Wrote:(November 26, 2014 at 2:17 am)Godschild Wrote: You are very deficient in your knowledge of the Bible. God never had a problem with knowledge, it was the kind of knowledge they acquired He had a problem with and the disobedience to get that knowledge.
Yes, it was "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil"
Until Adam and Eve ate from its fruit they wouldn't have understood right or wrong which would have put them on the mental level of very young toddlers.
You do have proof about this statement, right? Let's see it. The Bible says different than you and the only place to get your info is the source.
Quote:Minor transgression, when did God make you a judge of what is major or minor, disobedience was major because it brought sin into the creation and as a result death came.
Quote:Yes, we can judge your mythical god just like we can say that Zeus was a rapist or Loki was a troublesome trickster. Even if your god was real, we could still judge him because it is obvious that we wouldn't be able to judge him if he didn't want us to do so. He supposedly made our brains function to ask questions. I invite you to judge your god. Go ahead. If your god is as vast and powerful as you claim, how is judging him going to hurt or even bother him?
Tell me how does one judge something they do not believe exist and still claim sanity? Actually I ask God questions, not to judge but to learn, you might want to try doing the same.
GC
(November 26, 2014 at 10:08 am)abaris Wrote:(November 26, 2014 at 2:17 am)Godschild Wrote: Minor transgression, when did God make you a judge of what is major or minor, disobedience was major because it brought sin into the creation and as a result death came.
Minor problem there. They ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So before they ate, they didn't know the difference. So how would they know about obedience being good or evil? They obviously couldn't make up their own mind about that, since that knowledge was lacking.
There was no lack of understanding on their part, why don't you read the story, you would learn different than what you believe, or are you afraid of the Bible or, is it you're afraid of honesty. People who claim to be so smart and logical seem to disguise their ability of not understanding a story to their peers, however we Christians are not fooled by your lack of understanding.
GC
(November 26, 2014 at 11:26 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Moreover, it implies that god is weaker than sin, since their eating of the forbidden fruit is what caused sin to enter the garden to begin with. And, again, the implication is clear - knowledge is tantamount to sin, and something god cannot undo for some reason. He can create existence, but his plans are permanently mucked up by hairless apes. Amazing. And if that's the case, the garden is an incredibly flawed design for a perfect being. You'd think the all mighty (tee hee) would simply make the tree inaccessible. Put a moat of lava around it, or something.
Is there anything sky daddy can do right?
Why, because He loved Adam and Eve so much He gave them the right to choose. Would you have God to treat you as a mindless twit, by the way you reason it seems that would suit you fine. The only hairless ape are those who desire to be less than what God can make out of them.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.